BR: TO ME IT SEEMS THAT THERE ARE MORE QUIET SECTIONS.
YO: In live concerts, we try many facets to explore.
KH: We need three hours.

BR: WHERE CAN YOU PLAY FOR THREE HOURS?
YO: In Japan, at any live venue.

JA: YOU CAN KEEP UP THAT ENERGY LEVEL FOR THREE HOURS?
YO: Yeah.

BR: IN FUSHITSUSHA THERE IS NEVER ANY ELECTRONICS, ANY SAMPLING. EVEN OUTSIDE OF FUSHITSUSHA, THERE'S NO SAMPLERS IN HAINO'S MUSIC--ALL INSTRUMENTS.
KH: Simple system is better. My tone generator, my oscillator has 30 volts. Made in India. So, very simple. But I used to plug six generators, sometimes two, sometimes six.
YO: Very primitive tone generator. Not a synthesizer, not a sampler. The only electronic instrument is the tone generator.
KH: I don't like samplers. I hate samplers! Electronic-acoustic music I like. Like Xenakis.

JA: WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE SAMPLER THAT YOU DON'T LIKE?
KH: [through YO]: Easier to play. [in English:] Synthesizer, sampler, not elegant for me.

BR: HOW DO YOU PREPARE FOR A CONCERT? DO YOU MEDITATE OR THINK ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN MUSIC?
YO: We have no time for meditation before concerts. We [mimics putting wires into sockets, testing levels].
KH: We want to do meditation before a concert, but we can't.

BR: YOU PLAYED WITH LEE KONITZ RECENTLY IN JAPAN? HOW DID THAT WORK OUT?
KH: Many many of my friends said to me 'terrible. Terrible. Terrible.' But that must mean is good. I used a guitar with no effects and it was at zero-two. And the audience say "what, is Haino? Not WCHCHCHCH [mimics sound of gtr]?"

BR: DO YOU WANT TO DO MORE THINGS LIKE THAT?
KH. Sure. Of course.

BR: 25 YEARS AGO, WERE YOU MORE INTERESTED IN JAPANESE FREE MUSIC OR AMERICAN ROCK? WHAT WERE YOU ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN?
KH: Olivier Messaien, and Japanese Noh. And Blue Cheer. I don't like free jazz. Albert Ayler only

JA: WHAT IS IT THAT YOU LIKE ABOUT AYLER?
KH: Emotion. Ayler only.

JA: WHAT ABOUT JAPANESE MUSICIANS LIKE TAKAYANAGI AND ABE?
KH: Ahhh....I didn't hear (them). I didn't hear.

BR: DID YOU STUDY AS A SINGER?
KH: No. But we always singing a song in the studio. Example: AHAGA AH OH.
YO: TU AH AA OH. So we make music from singing.

BR: WHAT DOES FUSHITSUSHA MEAN?
YO: Too difficult.
KH: But the image is positive. Positive. Not negative.

BR: WHAT DO YOU LIKE TO LISTEN TO?
KH: Many many things. Traditional ethnic music. Not world music. I don't like world music. India, Japan, Eskimo, Greece. And blues music.

JA: BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN?
KH: No, country blues. John Lee Hooker, the father, I love.

JA: DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A BLUES MUSICIAN?
KH: If people say to me you are a blues musician, I am happy.